Paula Deen gives a tour of her new kitchen. In her Savannah Ga home.

This house looks just like it's right up a DLers alley. It's by the water, it's upscale, it's not to big, just perfect.

How many lawn jockeys are there?

She has a nice home, she's had it for 17 years. She just sold her much larger house just down the street from this one. She wanted to downsize back to the house she lived in where her food network show was filmed in. Newly renovated.

I don't mind her but I can't watch her because she overworks the shuckiness.

Here's her Christmas house tour too.

Where are the slave's quarters?

[quote] Where are the slave's quarters?

Out back, next to the shitter

Fox News on the TV, of course.

Atrocious woman, lovely house.

I know someone who moved there with his partner, would be curious to visit the area.

Notice how she name checks all the places she got the furniture and lighting. She sold their bigger house furnished and had to buy all new things for this one. I bet this video is some discount deal.

I just wonder about her assistant Eddie who is doing the filming. She mentioned he eats dinner with her and her husband every night.

Tony Woodard, are you the guy who got fucked by GOOFY on the Disney Cruise?

How many servants are blacks?

And everything is covered in butter!

I guess she finally gave up on trying to sell the place. She had it on the market for a LOOOOONNG time at $11 million. The price eventually got down to $7 million and still didn't sell. The house is built on the property her husband grew up on. His old tiny family house (bungalow) is right next door to this fancy place.

The house is on Wilmington Island (between Savannah and Tybee Island), right on the Wilmington River. She can get in her boat at the dock behind the house and go all the way up the river into downtown Savannah.

This is the entrance.

[quote] It's not to big, just perfect.

She didn't cover much of the house in her tour. It's a quite large house

The house is 14,500 sq. ft.

R20 That's the "Riverbend" house that she sold. She's now living in a different house.

That's amazing, R19.

I would love to buy that property.

To me, it's worth $11,000,000.

Unfortunately, I don't have that much money.

Yeah, I see now that she finally sold the place. But I can't find where she moved to. I also see she initially put the place on the market for $12.5 million, not $11 million. She bought it for $3.75 million. I guess somebody got a great deal.

R24 The new house is at 121 Dogwood Ave in Savannah

She went from 14500 sq. ft. to 5638 sq. ft. Remax has a property value estimate on the new property of $1,341,000.00. She's still on Wilmington Island, not far from the old house, but now she's on Turner Creek.

Still more than enough room for her & the husband. And she's got ultimate privacy. You can't see squat from the street.

This is all you can see from the street.

[quote]The new house is at 121 Dogwood Ave in Savannah

And here I thought it was 4215 Pussy Way.

I bet there is lots of mosquitos in her back yard. I don't seen any screens, just one old fan.

R29 Yes during spring and summer. It can be unbearable at times. And she live on the marsh. So it's probably really bad.

I know exactly where she lives, I use to go to middle school on the island, back in the early 2000s. She had that house then. That's also the house Kathy Griffin stayed in when she came to savannah while she was filming her "my life on the D list" show. She brought Michael Mcdonald with her.

That house is perfect for her and her husband Michael. She'll probably end up leaving it to her grandchildren when she's no longer here.

It's a lovely house.

She referred to Dora Charles as her "soul sister" and credited Charles as being central to her success. Paula owned a 14,000 sq ft home and a 5,000 sq ft home and Charles struggled in a trailer. She worked for Paula for 20 yrs and couldn't afford to by her own medication. Deen is a horrible person.

Where did she hide all the burning crosses?

She dun’t like dem blacks.

Early stage dementia and I agree that all that product placement gets her a discount. Her recipes involve a can of some canned soup or other pre-made crap, much like Sandra Lee's recipes. Lovely home but despicable human being who deserves to be permanently canceled.

Thankfully the fall of the Paula Deen empire also meant the end of Food Network pushing Jamie & Bobby on an unsuspecting public. The older one wasn't too bad, but the younger one (Bobby?)...god, he was annoying

Is it located near The Mortimer Club?

My sister had an internship on Wilmington Island about x12 years ago. I begrudgingly agreed to meet her for a weekend there. The highlights were driving past both of Paula's houses, and going to a BBQ stand with a very unsteady, wooden patio where the food was something out of a Kroger deli. All that to say, Paula has to be missing the easy $$$ she had rolling in before the scandal. She had shows, each son had a show, and all the merch being sold at Walmart, etc.

Someone else on here disagreed with me before, but you could see in the windows of her new home from the main road before the scandal. (No doubt they've let the shrubs grow up for privacy.) I still follow her on YT, and follow her restaurants on FB. They're pandering at this point for business...even my country cousins x2 hours away won't have anything to do with her anymore. She should just retire in peace on her husband's land.

For all the bitching people (well, mostly the right) do about "cancel culture", Deen is a prime example of a person who was exposed for exactly what she was & even her dire hard Food Network/people who love a good buffet turned on her for being such a bigot & a demanding monster. It does make you wonder why she doesn't just retire - she has tons of $$ and not much time left - but I guess once you've been on top (particularly in a very small pool like Savannah), you're always fighting to regain that crown

[quote] but you could see in the windows of her new home from the main road before the scandal.

The scandal happened over 7 years ago. She didn't move into this new house until sometime in the last year. Her Riverbend house was still on the market in 2020. Those trees around the entrance to the new house have been growing long before she moved in, probably since the house was built in 2004. And you can see absolutely nothing of the house from the main road and never have been able to. The new house is at the end of Dogwood, a small dead end street. The nearest main road (Palmetto) is too far away to see any part of that house.

How big are the slave quarters?

Paula posted this on her social media, as she was giving the tour...

You would have thought someone would have tended to her hair before they let her go on camera for that house tour. She looks like she just got out of bed.

Jamie and Bobby are just fine. They're more than busy running her 8 restaurants

Paula Deen is basically white trash who worked and got really lucky in life, thanks to help from her sons.

The house in the tour is the house she lived in before she moved to to larger house "river bend." She built that house after she made a massive fortune during her food network years. That's also the house Oprah and Gayle stayed in when they came to savannah 10 years ago to interview Paula for Oprah's OWN show. She had really nice cottages for them to stay in while they we're on her property. She also cooked for them as well.

After she dropped off the radar a little after her racist scandal 7 years ago, she put that larger property on the market for $12.5 million dollars where it sat for years with no takers. She moved back into the house she lives in now, now that she and her husband are getting older to downsize because it's less maintenance on a smaller property but still relatively large anyway. It's also the house she shot her food network show in, and one of the main reasons she built the bigger house is because the food network show had pretty much taken over the smaller house with all of its production equipment and crew. So she basically said, well the show can have the smaller house and basically just let that become a TV set for her show.

After the show ended, she decided a few years ago it was time to turn the smaller property back into a livable home again, which is why she and her husband decided to go ahead and renovate and move back into the smaller property for their golden years.

Does she still favor her straight son?

Everybody keeps talking about her two houses. Is there a video or address of her old house? I wanna see what she gave up!

Bobby is now married with three kids (triplets!), but I still think he swims in the man pond. He pinged to high heavens back during their time on TFN.

She don’t want blacks anywhere near her house. Fat old cunt.

[quote] Does she still favor her straight son?

Lol. I thought I was the only one who thought this.

[quote] Bobby is now married with three kids (triplets!), but I still think he swims in the man pond

Triplets?

That means in-vitro fertilization. Which means that he came in a test tube.

Which means that he didn't actually have sex with his "wife."

She's a beard. He's gay.

That is all.

She has a separate cupboard now to house all her white sheets...and hoods.

Bacon wrapped butter chunks for tonight’s Cross Burning on the Big Lawn, yaaaaal! Be sure to starch those cloaks!

I do like her antique cupboards, though.

I wonder how many darkies worked to rehab that house?

[quote] I wonder how many darkies worked to rehab that house?

Depends on how many she bought at the auction.

I’m NOT interested in touring this CONFEDERATE CLOWN’S house. I

Bobby and his wife Claudia on IG live. I still get pinging vibes from him and he’s still adorable.

Can someone check in on R57?

She's cute, at R59.

If Bobby has to have a beard, I can see why he chose her.

Claudia is funny and has a good personality.

R47 Old house: 818 Wilmington Island Rd in Savannah

New house: 121 Dogwood Ave in Savannah

The original house she did her Food Network TV show in was located in Connecticut. It was the home of her producer Gordon Elliot. It was a huge yellow clapboard house.

The neighborhood the Dogwood Ave. house is located on is not as nice as the neighborhood Riverbend is located in, although the houses are not that far apart. Most of the houses located nearby are small bungalow type dwellings. There's a quite large townhouse development across Dogwood behind a high wall. She's right next door to Judy Helmy's property and charter boat operation. I've known Judy since childhood. I don't know if she still is, but for a long time she was the only licensed female charter boat captain in the US, and not to mention a great old broad.

Here she is having dinner with Oprah and Gayle in her larger home she just sold a few months ago.

Here's Bobby getting his makeup done at his mother's larger house. The one she just sold.

R47 Here you go. A tour of her larger house she just sold.

I find that so odd that Bobby like to dress up as his mother for Halloween. I preferred to dress up as Little Orphan Annie.

Thanks to NBC, all little black girls will be dressing up as Little Orphan Annie now.

Paula Deens neither is a very wealthy black man whose a savannah native. And she decided to move back into that property knowing he lives there with his family. So she knows how to behave I'm assuming when it comes to him. He's also way richer then her ass is 😆🤣😂.

Also, Savannah is a majority black city and has lived here since the late 80s. She's originally from Albany GA, so she's very aware of the population and demographic of the city she moved too. And there's plenty of black people who live on the same island she calls home.

Savannah made her who she is today.

[quote] And there's plenty of black people who live on the same island she calls home.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Wilmington Island is 89% Caucasian and 3% African. With a population of less than 16,000 that's less than 500 people on Wilmington Island that are black.

Did anyone else hear the sound of people singing spirituals? It was coming from the area where there appeared to be cotton fields...

R72 Bitch, I went to middle school on wilmgton Island. And they're are rich black people who live on that island as well. The racial demographics of the island maybe one thing. But their plenty of black people living on that island.

I frequent publix enough to know this.

Oh my goodness, well aren't you triggered R74. From your little childish temper tantrum, I'm guessing you went to middle school on Wilmington Island last year? And based on your illiterate use of the word "their" I'm guess you may need to be held back, or go to summer school. And then maybe take some anger management classes.

Oh so "bitch" wasn't nasty enough for you so now you're calling me a "cunt". Are you even old enough to be on this board?

[quote] Oh so "bitch" wasn't nasty enough for you so now you're calling me a "cunt". Are you even old enough to be on this board?

65+ gotta have your AARP membership

R77 I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I never want to do that, sorry for calling you names.

Good day!

Did Paula make Oprah and Gayle stay in the slave's quarters?

I'm enjoying this "whatever happened to" thread on America's favorite racist slinger of fatty foods - no, not Colonel Sanders, Paula Deen. I saw the traveling Deen show at one of those food expo things that used to be popular. She was completely awful & her family was embarrassed by her behavior. I checked out their twitter page & they're still pushing Mama's same old crap that's not even well presented.

[quote] She was completely awful & her family was embarrassed by her behavior. I

What did she do?

Trust me none of her family was embarrassed by anything she did. They know that but for her and her fake hick buffoonery they'd be working in someone else's restaurant, not running their own chain of 8. Besides, Jamie and Bobby know it's all an act. I remember when she was first found by Gordon Elliot and he put her on that 'Door Knock Dinners' show. She was nothing like she eventually became. There was none of the aww shucks hick routine. He's the one who got her to start doing that shtick.

I remember one day she had some male celebrity on her show (can't remember who he was). They were cooking beef that needed to be tenderized. She handed him the meat hammer and said "here, beat your meat". The poor guy looked around at people on the other side of the camera like "uh what do I do?". He wanted to crawl under the table.

If you want to see what a mental mess she is, just watch any of the videos she shot during quarantine.

Looking at her now I have to wonder if she's not a drunk.

Did anyone see the show when she had Liza Minelli visiting her at Riverbend? Poor Liza looked shell shocked, especially when Paula took her out into the chicken coop.

I cannot imagine what life is like with her. Does she spend all her time in the kitchen cooking masses of people that she calls family, friends and employees? I'm sure she doesn't clean a pot or pan.

[quote]I remember one day she had some male celebrity on her show (can't remember who he was). They were cooking beef that needed to be tenderized. She handed him the meat hammer and said "here, beat your meat".

At the height of her fame, she really ran that horny-old-lady schtick into the ground.

The cringey first take of her apology video right after the shit hit the fan

[quote]If you want to see what a mental mess she is, just watch any of the videos she shot during quarantine.

She looks really haggard when she doesn't put a face on.

Her problem was that she got caught up in all the fame and money and like so many others in that situation got to the point she thought she could say or do anything and everyone would love it. She believed her own publicity. I blame her producers and managers for that. They should have told her to calm down when they saw she was getting out of control. But they probably knew she would eventually burn out and were just trying to suck as much out of her as possible before it all went to hell.

R87 I think she was most certainly a booze bag twelve years ago, more or less… A woman I met briefly once told me she and her girlfriends were given very expensive tickets to a cooking demo Deen was performing at a casino (if I remember correctly, in Hammond IN, or a town close by, yet I have forgotten the name of the casino.)

Deen was drunk off her arse, slurring her words, and did not follow through with her demo, though everything had been set up, and ingredients were laid out…She instead passed out copies of her recipes, told dirty jokes, and a few of these older ladies began to walk out… as soon as they did, she began to heckle them like a bully comedienne.

Can’t believe that Bobby married a woman…

When Paula had that episode where she deep fried everything, I was done with her. Then the racist shit came out. And I wanted her dead. Her family too. Didn’t that ignoramus brother of hers die?

Yes, Bubba kicked the slop bucket.

People who are continually remodelling or renovating their kitchens bother me. The confederate Clown, as R57 cleverly called her is constantly licking her fingers, tasting with serving spoons, or the spoon she is stirring her pot with … it’s vile and unsanitary. I’ve witnessed her double dipping, and cross contaminating food too many times to count.

Her fans decry this criticism and claim “she’s a home cook, not a professional chef” It’s irrelevant whether she was classically/formally trained. She’s still the owner of eight restaurants, and still has taken to the airwaves, cable TV, and now YT showing others how to cook; she sets quite a poor example to anyone watching. I find her utterly revolting.

The sad thing is she could have been a delight. But people like Gordon Elliott and others got hold of her and groomed her into this down home memaw showing everyone how to cook southern food, but they made a monster. They never trained her how to take care of her reputation and this new persona they were developing for her. She was ignorant and went hog wild with it like a high school dropout living in a single wide suddenly winning $50 million in the lottery.

And the fact that she had secrets from way back in her personal life didn't help. She should have taken better care of her employees, especially the ones who helped build her business. But greed will get you every time.

Still her greatest moment, after all these years:

R98 She forgot to butter the doughnuts! Cheers, haven’t seen that before.

Did she aks dem neegroes to wipe her fat drunk ass????

Now we know R96 threw the ham...

R101 Ha! That’s hilarious… I swear it wasn’t me.

Confederate Clown surely had it coming though!

Who threw that ham at me?

I know Paula's a deeply flawed woman, but I still enjoy her. Maybe it's because she became Paula Deen in savannah and her claim to fame was started here, as well as thus being her home too.

My hometown.

I really like her recipe for soba noodles with sauteed chard and chili oil. Her Atlantic char on a bed of herbaceous pureed endives and leeks looks divine.

Fat tubalard had that ham coming.

One of my friends who worked at Caesars Palace in Vegas met her in the casino about x10 years ago. Said she was smoking like a chimney and playing slots. He waited until she was done to ask for a pic...she obliged and he said she smelled like an ashtray.

A few years later, everything was set for her to open a Paula Deen's Buffet here in Vegas, either at Harrah's or Flamingo. They had the elevator wraps featuring her life-sized image already installed. All that evaporated overnight with the scandal. The Harrah's in Cherokee kept her name on the buffet for a little while before phasing it out.

She's racist and uses way too much butter. I don't care if she lives in a house, is homeless, or dead.

So are the haters on here unwilling to forgive her racist past or do you hate her because she's a hick?

[quote]Deen was drunk off her arse, slurring her words, and did not follow through with her demo, though everything had been set up, and ingredients were laid out…She instead passed out copies of her recipes, told dirty jokes, and a few of these older ladies began to walk out… as soon as they did, she began to heckle them like a bully comedienne.

My experience was similar, though not quite as bad; she was at a Food Expo in DC at a time when Food Network was in it's prime. Rolled in late with the entire family, wasted time doing their little Hee Haw routine, but eventually the sons & husband try to get her to get down to business. So such luck. She keeps bringing fans up to take pictures and when the sons & husband try to get her on track she snarls at them or sticks out their tongue. The husband looked exasperated & Bobby & Jamie just stood there like two whipped dogs. The crowd starts getting rowdy & finally once the hour was up, she was like "we're done" and walked out. I contacted the company to complain & they responded that these problems were not new & they were considering making changes. When her life exploded & all those bad stories came out about her, I was not the least bit surprised. Even my mom who loved her dirty old lady schtick wouldn't watch her after that. Clearly Paula had that impact on a lot of people.

I believe if she was a young woman the scandal would have totally destroyed her. But people are more forgiving of old women. She's 74 years old, possibly an alcoholic (or at least a big time drinker), and I would have little doubt is probably on prescribed narcotics. It appears when left to her own resources these days she's not even interested in fixing herself up. It's doubtful that she'll be around for the long haul.

Discovering this woman was a big ol' racist was like the least surprising discovery ever.

Has Whoopi Goldberg commented yet?

I would like to think that Paula is the last of the racist generation who call people stereotypical names. But, it's not. We learned that on Jan 6. It's just come back in a not-so-new form. Hopefully, people are more aware and tolerant than they were in her generation, but I'm not so sure.

Paula Deen is a product of 1950s Albany, Ga.. Having the attitude she has is all she knew growing up. That doesn't make what she said & did right. And at some point in her life she, like so many others who grew up in similar circumstances, should have realized she needed to change her attitude. But, until she gained fame and fortune she had no money to travel and experience other people, other societies, other ways of life in order to broaden herself. So she clung to the old bigoted beliefs she grew up with never thinking it would get her in trouble one day.

I believe her sons are of a different mindset entirely. It's unfortunate they couldn't impress upon their mother at some point that she needed to change. But when mama is your cash cow I guess you tend to not rock the boat and hope for the best.

I remember lots of people writing her off when the diabetes scandal happened, and that was before the N-word scandal. As for her being a drinker, she says that she doesn’t drink and that Michael only has a drink every once in a while.

[quote] But when mama is your cash cow I guess you tend to not rock the boat and hope for the best.

Sounds like Trump philosophy. Oh yea, they watch Fox news.

I can't stand her. Once someone exhibits racist tendencies, that's it; I'm done with them, no matter how much they apologize.

Her teeth are so incredibly distracting. They look awful, and I say this as someone with a mouthful of veneers and crowns. I'll never understand why dentists allow people to select unnatural, bleached white shades.

When she lived at Riverbend I think the Coast Guard used her teeth as a light beacon for boats heading up the river at night. The moonlight shined so beautifully off her huge choppers.

[quote] I'll never understand why dentists allow people to select unnatural, bleached white shades.

It's very simple. The patient is the one with the money. Most dentists couldn't care less if the patient end up looking like circus clowns as long as the bills are paid and the patient is happy.

She has the white fake choppers cuz she dun’t want no blackie teefs.

r117 She says she doesn't drink and her husband only has one every 3 months, but when she opened the top cabinet in that smaller pantry, there were a shit ton of liquor bottles.

Yeah, she made sure to specify that they do have a ton of booze, but they don't drink it. I'm guessing it's for guests, but maybe they dip and dab more than she's letting on.

Aww, she just takes a little sippypoo at night, to calm her nerves. Of course that sippypoo is served in an iced tea glass.

All I can say is, if she's not drinking like a longshoreman every day she's on some kind of narcotics. That might be the only reason she wouldn't drink. Terrified she'd kill herself.

Does she still hawk her merchandise on ShopHQ (formerly evine)? It was probably pre-pandemic, but I came across her selling air fryers. She was making grilled cheese sandwiches in them. She said, "Y'all stand back -- I'm about to cut the cheese!!"

Not surprising r128. She had one in the pantry and a huge one on the countertop. She probably has one in her bedroom too.

Does she still have money coming in? She lost a lot of money recently when her restaurant chain went bankrupt. That's probably why she sold her bigger house in Savannah.

r130 apparently she has a merchandise furniture line which she hawked during the vid.

[quote] Does she still have money coming in? She lost a lot of money recently when her restaurant chain went bankrupt

Her restaurant business has not gone bankrupt. She has 8 restaurants currently. I was just by the flagship Lady & Sons a couple weeks ago and the line was out the door and down the street. She may not be raking in all the TV money, but she's still got it rolling in.

Yelp says people like the food. I checked out the menu and pictures. It's family-style, all-you-can-eat with complimentary cheese biscuits and no doggie bags. The food is Southern/Middle American: fried chicken, chicken-fried pork chops, catfish, pot roast, chicken with biscuits, spare ribs, and meatloaf. Depending on which price option you and your group choose, you can have 2-4 different entrees. The dessert is ooey gooey butter cake and banana pudding. There are sides but not particularly healthy ones. Half the space is a Paula museum/gift shop with a replica of her kitchen. According to Indeed, which said this was a shitty workplace, the food is all pre-prepared and/or frozen.

I grant you that if you grew up on this food or consider it a guilty pleasure, you might be salivating over the menu. I'd rather go to a place that doesn't see its clientele as a bunch of suckers. I'm betting that isn't free-range chicken or grass-fed beef.

No vegetarian entree options which will make the DL "I hate woke people" contingent of yahoos happy, I don't know if there are healthier options near Panama City or Branson, and I sure hope I never have to find out.

IT'S SQUARE FISH PHYLLIS! OKAY!!

Her business is making enough money to keep her, and both her sons quite wealthy.

It's theme food and there are few things worse than theme food restaurants. Give me a little home owned eatery any day.

I'd try it if they had spare ribs on the menu but i didn't see it on lunch OR dinner menu. As a novelty.

She opened one of her overly-huge Country Kitchens in very expensive real estate in North Dallas in 2018, so of course we went to check it out. It was basically a slightly up-scale Cracker Barrel with frilly froo-froo decor in off-putting greys. Expensive, not particularly outstanding southern fare (although the gooey butter cake was good). What I remember is you could get refills on the limited sides you originally picked, you couldn't change to try different ones when getting refills. So if you ordered creamed corn, you couldn't get green beans as a refill.

As for clientele, It was wall-to-wall older white Fraus, as you'd expect. Although it was busy when we went, the place unexpectedly closed in 2019, with no explanation.

The menus are slightly different at each of the six locations. One had shrimp and grits, which I would be willing to try but I can't believed it's seasoned well.

When the scandal hit years ago she closed down the restaurant where the incident happened one night after closing and didn't even bother to inform the employees. They all showed up the next day for work and found it the place was closed for good.

The sad thing is all that food on the table is just for her. Anybody try to touch one of those dishes and she will cut a bitch.

More from Yelp. Someone picked up the tab for a table of cops and sent this note.

Before she lost the weight, she was basically a white, and therefore "acceptable," modern day repackaged Southern Mammy.

This is from the first season of her show, when she talked in her normal voice and she used Gordon Elliott's house in Connecticut as her shooting location.

Funniest thing I read on the Yelp link:

[quote]Note: Bariatric Patients can get the child's price if you have proof of procedure.

r147 It's no joke - when you get bariatric surgery for the first several years you can only eat a golf ball sized amt of food every couple hours. So that's nice that they would offer that. I've never seen that on a restaurant menu and I had this surgery 19 years ago.

That’s her regular voice r146? Doesn’t sound like it.

I love and am surprised that she lost fans due to the diabetes scandal.

[quote] So are the haters on here unwilling to forgive her racist past or do you hate her because she's a hick?

The worst part of the scandal was not a remark that she made yrs ago. How she handled the scandal was the worst part. It revealed more about who and what she is than whatever remark she admitted to making in the past.

[quote] Paula Deen is a product of 1950s Albany, Ga.. Having the attitude she has is all she knew growing up. That doesn't make what she said & did right. And at some point in her life she, like so many others who grew up in similar circumstances, should have realized she needed to change her attitude. But, until she gained fame and fortune she had no money to travel and experience other people, other societies, other ways of life in order to broaden herself. So she clung to the old bigoted beliefs she grew up with never thinking it would get her in trouble one day. I believe her sons are of a different mindset entirely. It's unfortunate they couldn't impress upon their mother at some point that she needed to change. But when mama is your cash cow I guess you tend to not rock the boat and hope for the best.

Most people took her age and upbringing into consideration and many were willing to forgive her. As I stated above; she did a terrible job of handling the scandal. Then we found out that how poorly she treated Dora Charles; who she called her "soul sister." We can pretend that she lived in a cave until she found fame and fortune. However, she had an intimate relationship with Dora Charles and credited Charles with helping her achieve success. She worked for Deen for 20 yrs and for most of the time Deen (and "different mindset" sons) paid Charles $6.00 per hour). Deen owned 2 mansions and Charles lived in trailer. Is that really how you treat a "friend", much less someone that refer to as a "sister" and credit with being essential to your success. When the scandal (which as about her brothers behavior and her enabling him) broke. Deen made an ass out of herself, attempting to defend her brother. Then the scandal grew larger. Because she had mistreated her employees. The evidence that would have debunked the scandalous claims didn't exist. Instead we found out that she was really a horrible human being.

It really really helped her when she went on her apology tour and said “I is what I is”. Dumb fat cunt.

I am sure there are other “down-home” restaurants in Savannah that serve the same stuff but from scratch and without the air of mass production?

R154 Yes, Mrs Wilks. It's also where president Obama ate when he came to Savannah in his first term in office. That's where all the really important people go when they come to Savannah.

Mrs. Wilkes Boarding House is world renowned.

Mrs. Wilkes vs Paula Deen. Guess who won with this guy.

My partner ate at Mrs. Wilkes' on a trip to Savannah when he was a kid. He says their fried chicken is the best he's ever tried, although the food reportedly isn't as good as it was when Sema Wilkes was alive.

Paula is clearly a racist asshole who's said and done some despicable things, but at the same time I don't think she truly hates black people. She's just never found the will to rise above the attitudes she was raised with.

She voted for Obama and had Michelle on her show, she's friends with Jimmy Carter, and she used to have that flamboyantly gay personal assistant. But like a lot of white Southerners who consider themselves liberal, she drops the mask when she thinks nobody's looking.

She is from an era (not just in the south either) when many white people had no animosity toward black people, but they still felt that black people had their place and white people had their place and it was best if both kept in their places. Blacks were considered the subservient servant class and whites were considered the superior class. To them that's just the way God meant it to be because that's all they'd ever been told.

Think back to the movie "The Color Purple" when Sophia and all her kids were in town and Miss Millie the mayor's wife came up and was fawning over all the kids. Miss Millie was kissing one of Sophia's children saying "oh your children are all so clean - would you like to come work for me - be my maid?". That's the attitude someone like Paula Deen grew up around. I can just hear her parents, "the coloreds are just fine, as long as they know their place". Of course at some point in Paula's life, if she had been more intelligent, she would have realized how bigoted all that feigned sweetness toward black people was, and adjusted her attitude. But apparently it wasn't to be.

[quote]She is from an era (not just in the south either) when many white people had no animosity toward black people, but they still felt that black people had their place and white people had their place and it was best if both kept in their places. Blacks were considered the subservient servant class and whites were considered the superior class. To them that's just the way God meant it to be because that's all they'd ever been told.

Not only that, but many white people in the South knew "the way things are" was wrong but were afraid to rock the boat lest they get targeted themselves. My partner's mom recalled seeing a black woman humiliated by a bus driver for not moving to the back; she said she wanted to say something, but she held back because this was Birmingham during the '50s and the KKK was everywhere.

R150 For many of those people it isn't even feigned. They can have real, kind, sweet feelings toward some black people and still be racist. I remember an older woman, who was very racist in her views. But, she honestly and truly loved black babies and little kids, or as she called them pickaninnies. She said they were more beautiful, because most white babies were ugly, she also said they behaved better, because most white kids are too rambunctious. She did seem to have real affection for them, but as soon as they grew out of that phase, she hated them and they turned into n#&&@rs. So it wasn't feigned so much as being a genuine expression of her warped views. She also loved her longtime maid. If she started going on one of her n-word rants and you were to say what about your maid? She'd reply something like, "Sarah isn't a n#&&@r, she is Sarah." And, in her mind she couldn't figure out why you would lump her Sarah in with the n#&&@rs she was talking about because they were completely separate in her mind.

I still make this recipe of hers sometimes:

[quote] And, in her mind she couldn't figure out why you would lump her Sarah in with the n#&&@rs she was talking about because they were completely separate in her mind.

Same as the word 'trash' is used today. It means different things to different people.

[quote]How she handled the scandal was the worst part. It revealed more about who and what she is than whatever remark she admitted to making in the past.

This. It was more than just her racism, too. She treats her workers like absolute shit. I don't need to forgive her for anything, I owe this wealthy woman nothing, and I don't give a rat's ass that she's a hick. She's an awful person.

How many other people noticed you can re-arrange the letters in her name to spell

[quote] How many other people noticed you can re-arrange the letters in her name to spell

[quote] —Laud a peen

I think about it all the time!

Completely off-topic - saw a pic yesterday of both her boys on a cookbook they put out. The one looks like a much more attractive version of Robin Thicke. Very cute!

Are there any decent celebrity chefs from The Food Network? Just about all of them have issues.

r169 issues =/= not a decent celeb chef (although PD's transgressions are pretty much up there).

[quote] Are there any decent celebrity chefs from The Food Network? Just about all of them have issues.

Most real chefs have no interest in being on TV. Only the ones whose main objective is becoming as rich as possible covet a spot on TV. I have little respect for any professionally trained chef who does anything on TV other than PBS.

I mean as far as character goes r170. I should have clarified that. Sorry 😞 Bobby Flay is a good chef, but so many people have said that he is a douche.

I consider Jacques Pepin a great chef. I consider Bobby Flay a hack who can only cook certain things well.

Pretty much 99% of head chefs are the most narcissistic fucking assholes. I challenge anyone to find a "nice" one.

Charlie Trotter in Chicago was said to be a raging asshole of the highest degree. I know one thing, the one time I was roped into eating at his restaurant it was one of the worst dining experiences I've ever had. If I'd been paying I would have been sorely pissed.

I wonder if Ina Garden is friendly with Paula, or if they ever even met?

Ina strikes me as an east Hamptons elitist snob, who would never associate with someone like Paula Deen.

Eventhough, Paula Deen is white and has become wealthy too.

I don't think they've ever met, to anyone's knowledge.

Doubt they would get along. I wouldn't be surprised if Paula thought Ina was an uptight snob as Ina would (understandably) think Paula white trash.

I think most everyone in the culinary world considered Paula Deen a joke. On the same level with Rachel Rae, or maybe even lower. Neither of those two are chefs. They're just broads who can cook who got on TV.

Paula is definitely having memory issues. Sad.

[quote]Completely off-topic - saw a pic yesterday of both her boys on a cookbook they put out.

This thread inspired me to google the Deen brothers; their cooking posts on twitter are pretty basic (cauliflower casserole, anyone?), but not terrible - just uninspired. At one time, when they were still on Food Network, they appeared to be trying to do their *own* thing, but now are just hawking the Paula Deen brand that's clearly had it's day.

R111 Thanks for that post;great example of her high jinx “boozin’ & schmoozin” and never getting down to business. It proves the casino tale I heard wasn’t a one off. The arrogance she displayed at the audience’s disappointment seems in line with a typical drunk and disorderly type as well. “We’re done” without any explanation, apologies, or humility is sad and unprofessional.

A meeting with Paula and Ina could happen. For all we know Bobby Dean and T.R. are hooking up and are pitching a co-hosting show called Southern Hampton to Food Network.

Paula and Ina should meet up and have a farting contest. Who would win?

Bobby Deen has no culinary background or expertise whatsoever. Jamie went to culinary school and is a certificated chef. Bobby was never involved in anything other than in office work with Paula's company. The food side was all Paula & Jamie. When the Food Network gave Bobby his own cooking show (that thankfully didn't last long) I knew that network was pure, unadulterated shyte, and I stopped watching it completely. And have never gone back. That network is not interested in promoting the culinary arts. They're only interested in promoting shlock programming of interest to stay at home fraus who sit around with curlers in their hair.

The stay-at-home frau is more likely to be upper middle class and women haven't worn curlers for at least 40 years. Otherwise, I fully agree with R186, The only FN show worth watching is Chopped, which is both New York-based and hosted by a gay man.

Whomever was insulting those with curlers in our hair...you don't know DL. The caftans, curlers, earrings, etc. I would accuse you of being Mister Ed-weenie, but you didn't mention transplants or link a cute white guy on TikTok!

I thought Katy Mixon, who “dated” Bobby, alluded to him being gay after they broke up? And I think pretty much after they split he became engaged to his current wife.

R189, you're correct. Katy bearded for him until she and Paula had a huge fight. Then Katy hit the road, continued on 'Mike & Molly', did that obscure HBO series, and landed 'American Housewife' the day after the last series got cancelled. And then 'AH' got canned this year (actually last year) because of racist behaviour on set. No commentary necessary.

No woman has worn curlers since 1966.

Try 1976 when perms made a comeback and curls were in.

I knew Bobby and Katy Mixon were "together" for a while, but I had no idea she and Paula didn't get along. I do remember a rumor that he was in a downlow relationship with his personal trainer.

There was a segment on one of Paula's shows (I believe) where they showed Bobby's home. When the camera panned over his coffee table, it caught a glimpse of a book from Andre Leon Talley that was laying there. I knew he was family right then.

There was also a segment on Food Network's [italic]Deen Family Vacation[/italic] special where Paula was being interviewed at home. Behind her, next to a photo of Jamie and his wife, was a digitally blurred photo that supposedly showed Bobby with his boyfriend at the time.

It's amazing that she could have settled that lawsuit for six figures, yet decided to fight it and had that disastrous deposition. She ended up losing her Food Network contract and multiple endorsement deals, Walmart and other retailers stopped carrying her product line...and she was exposed as a racist!

One of the only business partners that stood by her was the publishing company that produces her magazine. The CEO is a deplorable cunt who's hated by pretty much everyone who works there.

I didn't realize that Jamie Deen actually had culinary training. He was very natural on camera. He always seemed sunburnt and hungover, though.

Paula still seems phony. I never got into that kind of cooking.

Her "new" kitchen looks too cluttered.

I must say that her old show had good production values and I liked her dog padding around the kitchen.

Serious foodies consider her the Sandra Lee of Southern cooking because she relies so heavily on convenience products and she uses way too much of everything (ex: a cup of hot sauce in the egg wash for her fried chicken).

Can't stand this bitch's accent.

The Food Network tried to make Nancy Fuller the new Paula Been after she was cancelled, but Nancy never connected with viewers like Paula did.

Does she employ any Neegroes?

This popped up as a suggestion from the YT algorithm on my home page, and as Paula would declare; it’s a hoot!

Katy Mixon was a tiny little thing. When she and Bobby dated. When did she get so fat. She and her husband both are huge.

[quote]It's amazing that she could have settled that lawsuit for six figures, yet decided to fight it and had that disastrous deposition. She ended up losing her Food Network contract and multiple endorsement deals, Walmart and other retailers stopped carrying her product line...and she was exposed as a racist!

I don't know...sounds like the same person who couldn't stay on script for 60 minutes for a cooking demo, refused to express any genuine contrition when she got in trouble over the diabetes thing and then doubled down on her "I is who is" (or something like that) when she got called out for racism & bad treatment of employees. She refuses to take good advice, which is ironic since at some point someone mentored her to transition from running a local restaurant to becoming a TV personality.

Nancy was like the northeast version of Paula. They really do resemble one another. I liked Nancy’s show, but it was so obvious that they were just trying to replace Paula.

I remember watching Nancy Fuller on PBS years back and saw very fast that she could be a first class bitch. There's not one thing warm and cozy about that old broad.

R197 Phyllis Hoffman DePiano isn't the CEO, at least not now, but she is the founder and chairman of the company. I would imagine that Paula Deen's magazine was probably their main source of income.

After the escandalo didn't Paula start up an online subscription service at some point for like 10 bucks a month? Whatever happened to that?

R211 OMG the first thing I thought was Paula Deen has an Onlyfans where she uses a lot of butter for ungodly things?

Just did some Googling. Her online endeavor was called The Paula Deen Channel and looks like it lasted on season.

She might as well give it up.

This one ought to be known as the Confederate Clown’s Signature Dish. The irony is lost on her. Sometimes I cannot help but watching these, as they’re like a train wreck: morbid curiosity, and all that freaky stuff.

Is wood classic flooring for kitchens or dated/soon-to-be dated? I can't decide.

R216 Wood’s always an excellent choice, as it’s forgiving, it’s able to be refinished, and it’s natural. It’s a wise choice for those who dwell in a modest home with wood throughout the rest of the house. Too many different flooring choices for rooms which flow into another makes the space appear smaller, and it looks chaotic IMHO.

[quote] This one ought to be known as the Confederate Clown’s Signature Dish. The irony is lost on her. Sometimes I cannot help but watching these, as they’re like a train wreck: morbid curiosity, and all that freaky stuff.

She's just redoing the same shit she did on The Food Network. Which I guess at some point pulled her content.

She bought the rights to all her Food Network shows after they fired her ass. So she owns all of her episodes. She even own the episodes that never aired, she had a new season that had just started when her racist scandal broke, and a lot of the episodes never aired. So she owns all of the food Network content out right.

[quote] She bought the rights to all her Food Network shows after they fired her ass. So she owns all of her episodes. She even own the episodes that never aired, she had a new season that had just started when her racist scandal broke, and a lot of the episodes never aired. So she owns all of the food Network content out right.

I see now. In 2014 Jahm Najafi's privity equity firm invested a reported 75 to 100 million in creating Paula Deen Ventures and restructuring her failing business. She then purchased her content from Food Network and started her failed video subscription service.

She probably should have let Food Network keep the content. They would probably be re-airing it by now. She doesn't seem to be making money off of it.

I remember once watching Nancy Fuller picking apples on what must been a sturdy ladder. She faked throwing herself into a man’s arms and said ‘how about you carry me?’

I thought if she had fallen he would’ve been crushed to death.

Nancy Fuller was enough of an Ina to attract gay men, but not enough of a Southern broad to endear herself to fraus.

Has Food Network fallen from the glory days of the 2000s because viewers migrated to YouTube?

Picture it: Paula as a coach on [italic]Worst Cooks of America.[/italic]

I think her most famous moment is the deep-fried cheesecake.

Pussy Pussy Pussy, Paula Deens Pussy!

Racist cunt who got what she deserved. Did the ignorant bitch have a stick of butter for supper?

Quite impressed with thread. No one is claiming she got cancelled by virtue-signalling SJWs.

R91 That's the first time I've seen her makeup-free, and they definitely must pile it on. And I know she's backward Southern trash, but I didn't think anyone baked meatloaf in a loaf pan anymore. I certainly don't.

And using bread to line the bottom of the pan is just a waste of bread. She also said in that clip that when she bakes it on a cookie sheet, she lines that with bread as well. Of course, she can afford it, but ye gods what a fucking waste of food.

R232 I always make it in a loaf pan, But, the bread thing is strange.

The reason not to make it in a loaf pan is that the liquid fat and juices steam rather than roast the meat. It's the same reason you cook a roast on a rack. There are loaf pans with elevated metal inserts that have holes so the liquid is separate from the meatloaf. Now you know more about meatloaf than Paula Dean.

R234 Yeah but my favorite part of meatloaf is the crust that develops as the meat is cooked touching the pan sides. And, mine is still moist.

R235, don’t pay any attention to that information. Anyone who talks about roasting ground meat of any kind is a moron.

[quote] I think her most famous moment is the deep-fried cheesecake.

Recipe, please!

The only difference between Paula Deen's attitude toward race and the majority of people her age everywhere else in the country is that she had loose lips about it. I've been around enough people in NYC, Chicago, and all over California for work to know how they really feel about other races when they're in private. Unlike Paula they're to afraid to say those things in public.

How’s Paula’s cholesterol?

Didn't Paula sort this butter and fats thing out when she got ill and lost the weight? Isn't this old news? Her Covid classes on youtube aren't that outrageous, except Cabbage Casserole!

Can’t imagine who farts more. Paula or Ina farten.

[quote] Quite impressed with thread. No one is claiming she got cancelled by virtue-signalling SJWs

Most of DLers right-wingers are British. Paula is unknown outside then US so they don’t know who this is.

She has apologized repeatedly, losers. Move on.

Paula is a dear friend of mine. She always treats her earliest with such class, yet doesn’t mind to use a firm hand or belt when needed.

R245 Saying I is what I is is not an apology.

Part of the reason Paula can't apologize is that her behavior wasn't a one time thing & there are probably plenty of people willing to testify to that. It's pretty telling that even in these politically charged times, Paula never became a "cancel culture victim" to the right wing/Facebook frau types. She seems to be pretty universally disliked.

[quote] So are the haters on here unwilling to forgive her racist past or do you hate her because she's a hick?

[quote] She has apologized repeatedly, losers. Move on.

The worst part of the scandal was not a remark that she made yrs ago. How she handled the scandal was the worst part. It revealed more about who and what she is than whatever remark she admitted to making in the past.

Most people took her age and upbringing into consideration and many were willing to forgive her. As I stated above; she did a terrible job of handling the scandal. Then we found out that how poorly she treated Dora Charles; who she called her "soul sister." We can pretend that she lived in a cave until she found fame and fortune. However, she had an intimate relationship with Dora Charles and credited Charles with helping her achieve success. She worked for Deen for 20 yrs and for most of the time Deen (and "different mindset" sons) paid Charles $6.00 per hour). Deen owned 2 mansions and Charles lived in trailer. Is that really how you treat a "friend", much less someone that refer to as a "sister" and credit with being essential to your success. When the scandal (which as about her brothers behavior and her enabling him) broke. Deen made an ass out of herself, attempting to defend her brother. Then the scandal grew larger. Because she had mistreated her employees. The evidence that would have debunked the scandalous claims didn't exist. Instead we found out that she was really a horrible human being.

R249 I agree. I was fully willing to defend her when it came out that she had said the n-word, because of the circumstances. She apparently said it when she worked in a bank and a black guy committed an armed bank robbery. Given her age and the situation, I could defend that. But, it was the following things that came out, such as how she treated Charles, that made me say, there is no defending her.

Had she made amends and treated her employees with respect and financial support, things would have turned out differently. But she’s just a greedy cunt. She should just take an overdose of insulin and end it.

R250 It wasn't a bank robbery. She was trying to help the guy get a bank loan and somewhere down the line, the shit hit the fan and all he'll broke lose.

But her using the "N" word is still unexcptable. That only exposed something about her character deep down inside of her.

[quote] [R250] It wasn't a bank robbery. She was trying to help the guy get a bank loan and somewhere down the line, the shit hit the fan and all he'll broke lose. But her using the "N" word is still unexcptable. That only exposed something about her character deep down inside of her.

That’s incorrect.

[quote] During her deposition, Deen said that she “of course” had used the N-word before, specifically when telling her husband about a time when “a black man burst into the bank that I was working at and put a gun to my head.” TMZ notes that the incident in question occurred in 1986.

[comment] During her deposition, Deen said that she “of course” had used the N-word before, specifically when telling her husband about a time when “a black man burst into the bank that I was working at and put a gun to my head.” TMZ notes that the incident in question occurred in 1986.

So, what' your point? That was 35+ years ago, a different century! A different time. We're old, let us die in peace!

[quote] So, what' your point? That was 35+ years ago, a different century!

I corrected the previous statement.

[quote] a different century! A different time.

It was the mid 1980s, twenty + yrs post Civil Rights Movement. I remember it very well. As I pointed out multiple times: The worst part of the scandal was not a remark that she made yrs ago. How she handled the scandal was the worst part. It revealed more about who and what she is than whatever remark she admitted to making in the past.

[quote] We're old, let us die in peace!

I'm not preventing you from dying, in peace or otherwise.

All of you all kvetching about Paula paying her head cook minimum wage need to wake up and smellnthe coffee.

I’m not trying to defend Paula for being mean but seriously, every restaurant you’ve eaten in this month does the same damn thing. Dora Charles should have gotten off of her ass, applied for a job at another restaurant and told them she could bring all of Paula’s “secrets” with her.

It’s not Paula’s fault this fool decided to stay in one place, underpaid, for twenty years. Take some ownership of your life Dora!

I just watched "Boys In The Band" and hated it. What a bunch of bitchy and spiteful guys. Reminds me of all the bitches on here. Paula apologized, end of story.

[quote]I’m not trying to defend Paula for being mean but seriously, every restaurant you’ve eaten in this month does the same damn thing. Dora Charles should have gotten off of her ass, applied for a job at another restaurant and told them she could bring all of Paula’s “secrets” with her.

Savannah is a pretty small place; she may not have had other options.

The whole Me Too movement demonstrated that a lot of high profile chefs & restaurant owners made their reputation off the backs of low wage workers they largely mistreated & abused. Paula was a big fish in a small pond, so was likely particularly bad. As others have noted multiple times, the difference is: how poorly she handled the whole thing & her unwillingness to acknowledge the hurt she caused people. If she played her cards differently, she'd like be back in some capacity, but at this point she's just too addled to do much of anything.

I've blocked Tony Woodward...he/she/it seems to think they're the authority on anything Southern. I grew up in South Georgia x2.5 hours from Savannah (and 1.5 hours from Paula's hometown, Albany). When Paula started the takeaway business and the restaurant at the Savannah Best Western (which I've stayed at), plenty of people were looking for jobs and glad for a promotion when she started the Lady and Sons. Should she've given Jelly Roll more $$$? No doubt. Was Jelly Roll's name on the restaurant and her finances behind it? No.

Understandably so R261. I had to eventually as well. Just the single W though: just Woodard.

R262, thank you. Yes, any time anything remotely Southern was mentioned, Tony would chime in like he was/is/thinks they still are the Almightly Queen of the South, speaking for all of us. At first it was mildly amusing, then it was bad comedy, and finally got the point where I thought out loud, "Wait a minute, this bitch is nuts!"

R263 For me, it was too many racist comments. Couple that with a "know it all attitude", and it takes a great deal of patience. He can troll you as well, sort of nipping at your heel in every thread he turns up. I find it odd so many who make it their sport to do this here are not red-tagged by Muriel, or some moderator.

[quote] I've blocked Tony Woodward...he/she/it seems to think they're the authority on anything Southern. I grew up in South Georgia x2.5 hours from Savannah (and 1.5 hours from Paula's hometown, Albany). When Paula started the takeaway business and the restaurant at the Savannah Best Western (which I've stayed at), plenty of people were looking for jobs and glad for a promotion when she started the Lady and Sons. Should she've given Jelly Roll more $$$? No doubt. Was Jelly Roll's name on the restaurant and her finances behind it? No.

1. Dora Charles is the employee whom Deen refered to as her "soul sister" and credited with being essential to her success. Charles worked with Deen for 20+ yrs. Ineata Jones (Jellyroll) is another employee.

[quote] "For 22 years," says Kim Severson at The New York Times, "Charles was the queen of the Deen kitchens. She helped open the Lady & Sons, the restaurant here that made Ms. Deen's career." Deen called Charles, who is black, her "soul sister," and praised her as an expert on Southern cooking. Dora Charles "developed recipes, trained other cooks, and made sure everything down to the collard greens tasted right," Severson says.

2. Does any employer owe its employees fair treatment any decent wages/compensation? Does your employer owe that to you? Many would argue that they don't. Which is fine. However, if that is what you believe. Building a business around a manufactured image that represents kindness and love is probably a bad idea. The public was outraged because Deen was not what she portrayed herself to be. Had she treated her employees better. It would have saved her business. She chose not to do that and (as you pointed out) she wasn't obligated to treat Charles or any of the employees well.

I'm ashamed to say I watched all of 'American Housewife' starring Katy Mixon (over quarantine). I can see Paula being incredibly jealous of Katy when she dated the gay son (Bobby?). Paula would *have* to be the center of attention at all times, and Katy would've had them all laughing on the side with little remarks. Katy dodged a bullet getting out of that family.

R261 "takeaway"? That's what they say over in the UK. We say take-out here in the US. Are you really American? Or are you a Brit in America?

Because "takeaway" is a dead giveaway for a Brit.

I remember on the RHOA when they went to took a trip to Savannah. They talked about the Lady and sons, and someone said, isn't Paula racist? And they didn't want to go dine at her restaurant.

Paula really stained herself good.

R268 I'm not R261 but I do happen to be an expat Brit living in tbe States, and I find some of you do use takeaway, but more often say carry-out or take-out. Perhaps this is a regional thing. I hear different things in Chicago, compared to NYC. When the Americans write or type takeaway however, it usually is the two words: take away, or with the addition of the hyphen. Many Canadians I've met say To-Go orders.

As badly as she's behaved in the past, I was grossed out when she was photographed at Mar-a-Lago with Lara Trump.

This is from an early episode of her first show, [italic]Paula's Home Cooking.[/italic] It's a subtle difference, but she doesn't lay the accent on so thick, plus she looks put together and (dare one say it?) sort of classy.

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